Wednesday, August 24, 2005

You Heard It Here First

Okay, based on a number of things, none of which I'm going to go into, I'm calling out the '06 Republican ticket right here, right now. If I'm right...I don't know what. If I'm not, well, I think I am, but I guess we'll see.
  • Governor - Jim Edgar
  • Lt. Gov - Christine Radogno
  • Attorney General - ok, I'm not so sure on this one
  • Treasurer - Judy Baar Topinka
  • Comptroller - Bill Brady
  • Secretary of State - Dan Rutherford
But if I am right, with this lineup, does anybody see the Republicans picking up any of the offices that they don't presently hold? The changed photo caption gives you some insight as to my thoughts on the matchups. No reflection on the candidates themselves, mind you, just calling it like I see it.

Maybe they would be better off with the lineup pictured in my post here.

31 Comments:

At August 24, 2005 at 3:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If I'm not, well, I think I am, but I guess we'll see"

Come on buddy, you can't even admit you might be wrong. Complete your if-then statement, you liberal coward. How about if you are wrong. You walk from one end of your district to the other in women's panties.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 3:31 PM, Blogger Rep. John Fritchey said...

What the hell my politics have to do with this is beyond me. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong - no more, no less. I think that I have good reason to go with my picks, but this is a strange business where rumors abound.

Interesting though that some right-winger finds a way to bridge the conversation from campaign tickets to women's panties. Paging Dr. Freud. Besides, these days I get tired driving across my district let alone walking.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 3:34 PM, Blogger Amy Allen said...

It is clear that Anon 3:17 is indulging a juvenile sense of humor. Indulge away, but I think Rep. Fritchey has some prescient commentary. Rutherford's announcement for SOS makes it appear more and more likely that JBT won't be on the top of the ballot, but what about a Edgar/Topinka ticket? Early polling has showed them to be a potent duo.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 3:37 PM, Blogger Amy Allen said...

The last paragraph of my comment is completely nonsensical, b/c, if JBT ran for any other office, of course the Treasurer's seat would be empty. Mea culpa.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean other than the Governor's race?

 
At August 24, 2005 at 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets have some fun by suggesting some AG contenders, eh?

I'll go first...

David Silverman

 
At August 24, 2005 at 4:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, I'll go second. WHO? Seriously, has anybody even expressed an interest in that suicide run other than Joe Birkett.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 6:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you really think Edgar will come out of his luctrative retirement to face MSI and the other skeletons in his closet? It doesn't make sense but you are right it's a crazy business where many are driven by misguided egos.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 7:30 PM, Anonymous Illinois Democrat said...

I think you are pretty close to being right...I just hope it's a clean election..We don't need any more mud slinging.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 9:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is the line up I don't see anything changing other than Topinka losing.

Politics in Illinois is a lot different than they were 12 years ago when Edgar last ran for Governor. He won't get the passes that he use to get.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 9:36 PM, Blogger Amy Allen said...

Anon nine twelve:
If I'm not mistaken, the slate was for the general election."Topinka losing?" In the Republican primary for the Treasurer's office?

 
At August 24, 2005 at 10:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if Rod wins, it will be pure entertainment to watch him bumble and stutter his way through a defense of his administration.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 10:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I don't think that Jesse can be beat by anybody, it would be a mistake to not take Rutherford seriously

 
At August 24, 2005 at 10:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does this assume that the others (Poe, et al.) take one for the team and drop out or is this after they beat on each other for months in the primary?

 
At August 24, 2005 at 11:09 PM, Anonymous The Oswego Kid said...

Silverman is a law partner with Cross, but is that enough to get him to be a sacrificial lamb? Or would he just be being thrown in there as favor to Madigan?

 
At August 24, 2005 at 11:15 PM, Anonymous Disillusioned Dem said...

Illinois Democrat,

I'll tell you now that the most mud thrown will be by Blago's people. They will do and say whatever they have to in order to deflect attention from their paper-thin boss.

You would think that it would be enough just to say that the guy is so distrusted, members of his OWN party made him put agreements in writing.

 
At August 24, 2005 at 11:26 PM, Blogger ndpotus said...

I am not sure about all the candidates but here are my thoughts and my predictions on the races...

GOV's Race
No matter who it, it will get dirty and I think anything is possible. As far as Edgar coming back I say it is slim but if it is Edgar, Rod by 2.5

ATTY GEN RACE
No offense Rep Fritchey but, Lisa Madigan is probably the most talented up and comer in the IL Democratic party. The biggest thing Birkett attacked her for was never trying a case, well she did that and she did in front of the US Supreme Court. Lisa wins by at-least 15 against anyone...

COMPTROLLER'S RACE
Hynes is strong with the party and has really good name recognition across the state. He has the money and organization to easily defeat Bill Brady. Hynes by 12...

SOS RACE
Jesse White is probably the most beloved elected officail in the state. He won all 102 counties last time and says he wants to do that again. I say White over Rutherford by 23 and White wins 95 counties...

TREASURERS RACE
If it is indeed JBT running, then the Dems need a good candidate and they need to fund them and not abandon them like they did to Tom Dart. Right now, JBT V X Dem, JBT by 9...

--NICK

 
At August 24, 2005 at 11:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOT JIM EDGAR AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAY IT AIN'T SO!

 
At August 24, 2005 at 11:52 PM, Blogger Rep. John Fritchey said...

No offense taken, I think that she's been doing a great job. In fact, said so just this evening when I introduced her at an event. Lisa has worked hard to quiet the doubters and deserves a lot of credit.

 
At August 25, 2005 at 8:47 AM, Blogger Highland Pundit said...

Belleville News Democrat editorial yesterday was something like, "Can Jim Edgar Save the IL GOP".

If he runs and loses where does that leave the Republicans? Are they toast after this and the Keyes incident?

 
At August 25, 2005 at 9:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. If Edgar runs against Rod -- he wins -- I mean Rod's campaign is talking like Edgar's scandal will without any doubt bring him down -- Rod has quite enough scandals in his few years that he shouldn't be talking;

2. I haven't heard of Christine for Lt. Gov. but its not much of an issue;

3. JBT will hold on to her seat;

4. Hynes, White and Madigan will all hold on to their seat.

 
At August 25, 2005 at 9:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Blagojevich/Edgar race is just going to leave our whole state feeling like chumps for repeatedly electing Governors who stick it to us. I guess we get what we deserve.

 
At August 25, 2005 at 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Edgar runs, the White House will put enough money into the race to negate Rod's dollars.

Then it becomes an issue of whose scandals or bad media plays more relevantly...and the scores of voters that have been registered in the past few years don't remember MSI, and will only have the headlines in the paper to guide them. I think that a lot of crossover votes that Rod got may have second thoughts.

I don't think that Rod loses, but a wake up call is coming...if Edgar runs, this race is going to be a lot of fun to watch.

 
At August 25, 2005 at 7:48 PM, Blogger dazednamused said...

I wonder why Rutherford is going for SOS rather than Comptroller. Of the Dem constitutional officers, Hynes, fresh from his 2004 defeat, would seem more vulnerable than Jesse White.

Also, if you're advising Jim Edgar (and if you are, Rep. Fritchey, that would be very impressive for a House Dem), wouldn't you want to cut a deal with the White House to get assurances of a Cabinet post in the event that you lose the race for guv? That way, if Edgar loses, he saves face by finishing his career as U.S. DOT Secretary (to throw out an option considering Mineta has been there since the beginning of the Bush Adm) or whatever.

Edgar would be outspent by Blago, but enough money would come his way to be competitive on that front (and a lot of contributors would be hedging their bets with large donations to both).

To me, Edgar has already done it. What does he have to prove? If he runs and loses, he becomes another in the long line of Illinois governors who have failed to win a third term (Len Small, William Stratton). So, it seems like if you're Edgar, you would want to have a backup plan to fall to if you don't win the Guv race. A Cabinet post would be a capstone to your public career. Make some more contacts and then go off and make more money.

Beyond that, the one thing that I could see making him want to run is to pull off an Ogilvie, so to speak. In other words, go in and know that you're only going to serve one term b/c you want to push through the school funding tax swap once and for all. You go in and pass it (if the Fritcheys of the GA back you), irritating your suburban GOP base, but what do you care? You're angling for history to get rid of the school funding albatross that has been hanging around Illinois politics for decades. I'm guessing that may be the code Edgar is using when he refers to "duty."

Anyway, some random thoughts on a Thursday evening. Where's my beer?

 
At August 25, 2005 at 9:30 PM, Blogger DownstatePundit said...

Dazednamused:

The cabinet post speculation, which I haven't seen anywhere else, is probably the best speculation that I've seen lately regarding the potential Edgar candidacy. It's just the incentive of something Edgar hasn't done that might suit him up for 2006.

 
At August 26, 2005 at 7:53 AM, Blogger Judy said...

Edgar, I hope not because it is time fro new blood at the top of the party. I wouldn't support Topinka either. I would be happier if the GOP would put together a ticket that showcased some of the new faces that were running for offie.

It is a mistake to no take Rutherfors seriously, even though he is running for Secretary of State. I have know that this was going to happen since the early summer. If anyone can beat White it is Rutherford.

I like Brady for governor. He has a future beyond being governor where as Edgar would be a one termer again and does not really have a political future beyond that.

We need new faces in the GOP, not the same old establishment types.Ithink Edgar was a trial balloon to cut down the number of announcements for the race. He isn;t really going to run.

 
At August 26, 2005 at 8:15 AM, Blogger dazednamused said...

Downstate Pundit:

Thanks for the compliment. We'll see. Interesting to see Hastert pile on last night to the "make up your mind already" sentiment among GOPers.

 
At August 26, 2005 at 9:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Rutherford (I'm a Dem), but he is not going to beat White and would not be abel to bean Hynes. The only thing he will be able to accomplish is increasing his name ID.

 
At August 26, 2005 at 8:25 PM, Anonymous Michael said...

I'm not sure I agree that Blagojevich (especially after all the scandals of his first term, and the way he royally screwed state workers with the pension "reforms" he hammered through while he hoped nobody was looking Memorial Day weekend) would walk all over Jim Edgar (or JBT). I voted for G-Rod the first time, but I won't be making that mistake again. If I'm given the option of Edgar or Topinka, I'd seriously have to think about filling in that oval instead.

That said, anything lower down on the ticket I don't much care for the GOP's chances.

 
At August 27, 2005 at 9:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rutherford spends a lot of time up in your part of the City, doesn't he John?

 
At August 27, 2005 at 5:40 PM, Blogger Rep. John Fritchey said...

Dan's been spending time not just in Chicago, but around the state, for a while now. Say what you will, you have to respect any candidate who is willing to go out and do the proverbial groundwork to get their name and message out.

 

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